Clank wrote:In Horseshoes what you learn one day doesn't seem to be true the next, as many of my own posts indicate. But here is my latest discovery. I pitch my shoes holding the calks up and the flat side down. In the past I rejected a lot of shoes because holding them right side up cramped my grip. Holding them calks up puts your fingers on the flat side which results in more holding options and the ability to find a sweet spot for gripping in almost any shoe.
Does pitching shoes upside down have a down side? In sand or soil a sliding shoe seems desirable if you are pitching for ringers. Short shoes have a chance to slide onto the stake. And those that miss may as well slide on by. On hard clay a shoe hitting flat and flat side down will bounce more, but in ideal clay a shoe landing upside down will hold position just as well. A shoe landing flat and flat side down on top of a shoe flat side up will bounce more---but I believe the number of shoes that land perfectly flat on top of perfectly flat shoes is small.
In short, I don't believe that pitching shoes upside down has great disadvantages. Flippers have done it for years. Holding the shoe upside down gives more holding options on the shoes you already have and means you don't have to look as hard for the right shoes.
Shoe distributors can be thankful that my words don't carry an awfully lot of weight---because the little trick I've mentioned here makes one less inclined to seek a new shoe since there are so many ways to grip the shoes one already has..
mlbruem wrote:I hear what you guys are saying regarding pitching with caulks up. The thing I would like to interject is that when pitching in classes with your equals or in the upper classes just a little difference can be the difference between a W and a L. Also if you have that one ringer bounce off that makes you 39.9 or 49.9 or 59.9 instead of 40 or 50 or 60 ouch that hurts.
Clank wrote:I am now pitching my shoes right side up or flat side up. I still hold to most of what I have said about the advantages of pitching some shoes flat side down---primarily this gives you more gripping options. But the single biggest reason for changing is that I am tired of proving my ringers by digging to expose the flat side of my my shoes which extends farther than the other side. Also, it doesn't set well with opponents when you have to show them that what doesn't look at first like a ringer really is a ringer.
a bit of trivia---short shoes landing with heels toward the back of the pit are more apt to be ringers when the most protruding parts of the heels are on top of the shoe because the slope of the stake takes the stake farther out of ringer status as it goes down. However, if your shoe spends around so that the heels are facing the front of the pit it will measure better if the flat side is down since the farther down the stake the more into ringer status it becomes. But it's only fractions and cheapo ringers that are affected.
Clank I am having a hard time seeing any difference if you measure the shoe up or down the points will still be the farthest point. I can see how it is easier to sight a ringer with the flat side down. The best way I have been shown to measure is with a round rod,hold one end on the point of the shoe and hinge it down the stake and if you feel a bump on the other point you have a ringer. Rich Atlas has a mock up with a peg and a shoe and you are to measure and tell if it is a ringer or not. I measured with a straight edge and I said it was not a ringer. He took a rod and showed me it was a ringer and he was right.
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